S3E4: Forests
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In today’s episode of Art of Interference we speak with Ursula Biemann, a Swiss artist based in Zurich. Her work over the last decades has explored forests in the Amazon and the Andes as critical engines of planetary life. In her widely exhibited films and installations Biemann continually seeks to bridge existing divides between Indigenous knowledge systems and Western science. We also hear from biologist and conservation ecologist Malu Jorge about the wonders of carrying out research in the rainforest, and from scholar Mark Anderson about the rights of nature movement and how Amazonian cosmologies emphasize the sociality and intelligence of nonhuman entities.
Host: Lutz Koepnick
Find out more about Ursula Biemann, visit https://geobodies.org/.
Works discussed in this episode:
Dialogues with the Futures (2026)
For more on Malu Jorge, follow this link.
And for more on Mark Anderson, follow this link.
Many thanks to Ursula Biemann for her generous permission to reproduce select audio from the videos we dicuss in this episode.
The title music for this episode is part of Ursula Biemann’s Dialogues with the Future. Thanks to Cris Derksen, a Cree cellist and composer from Northern Alberta, Canada, for their permission to use select segments of War Cry Movement I in this episode.